It was a special thread...
This is the Euskalduna position.
"We are all slingshots" "We are all slingshots"
Come here, mum!
- You sit down there and I'll sit over here.
- Here? - Yes, sit down here.
Ok!
- Mum! - What?
-Well I'm going to interview you because you know I'm driving you crazy...
...with the Euskalduna thing.
- Yes... and that will be the end of it.
- That will be the end of it... - Yes.
- This is... you know how important this is to me, right?
- Very important, very important.
- Good, so...the interview I'm going to do do today...
...will be mostly... What did it mean to you...
...Euskalduna shutting down, the whole thing?...
- Well,...it was a while ago... I was very young.
...we went to live together your father and I.
...we rented a flat.
...loosing a steady job in those times....
...wooow...
...it was unthinkable, I mean...
A big shock.
We couldn't see a way out.
And anyway,...it was a tragedy, a total tragedy.
Not only for us, our house...
...but for a lot of workers in that shipyard.
They said there would be a meeting.
And after that meeting your father came home and said...
- ¡Hey! They said this is it.
It's over! They're going to shut down....
and a lot of us will be out of a job.
They didn't know, back then nobody knew.
But the reality was, people would be left without work.
Hard times, huh?
Very hard...when all that happened.
The workers, in the beginning we gave it our all.
But...I think there came a point during the fight...
...when...we started to realize that.. we weren't going to achieve anything.
But in the beginning... people weren't scared.
That was when.... we were convinced...
...a lot of women, not only me...
...that we had to give our support.
We had to join the fight
...and so... that's how we started.
...so that's it.
Sometimes you'd tell me that Tito got up very early....
...and you'd say: Where are you going, Tito?
You're not going to tell me about that... are you?
Can I tell you about this?
THIS IS US The Women of Euskalduna
The Euskalduna shipyards.
Next to the Deusto Bridge, in downtown Bilbao.
They were, up until the 80's a pillar of industrial activity in Bizkaia.
In 1983, the Spanish government set a plan in motion...
...to restructure the naval sector. Euskalduna had to close down.
It employed 2,741 workers at the time.
A serious labour and social conflict began...
...with Deusto bridge as one of its main settings.
The futures of thousands of families, Bilbao's industrial sector
...and the urban transformation of the city were all at play.
When I began research for the documentary...
I met Araitz.
She was working from a similar point of view.
I was researching women's actions in the Euskalduna conflict.
She was looking for answers she hadn't gotten from her family.
- We decided to explore this road together.
-Hello? - Hello. Eva?
- Yes? - Hello, it's Araitz.
Yesterday I was talking to Emilio, I'm Justo's daughter...
- Yes - I'm calling because I'm trying to...
...get in touch with more women who, like you, were in the fight...
...of the Euskalduna shipyard.
- Right. - So, it was just to know...
...if you can remember another woman...
...so I can get in touch with her.
- Ok, so nothing.... - You can't think of anyone.
- None at all.
- Damn.. - I can't reach anyone.
- Nobody.
- Hello? - Laura?
- Yes - Hi, it's Araitz
- Who? - It's Araitz.
Laura, I'm calling because I'm looking for or trying to get in touch...
...with more women that were involved in the fight for Euskalduna...
...and I wanted to know if you remember or are still in contact...
...with another woman o remember someone else so I can look for her.
Back in that time we met a lot of people.
But, of course, I didn't know most of them.
- You wouldn't have a list, would you?
A list of the women?
- Yes - Oh no...
- and telephone number, no, you don't. - No way, you're all as though...
...you had disappeared from the map.
-...it is as if history had erased you, or something like that.
- Who is it? - Yes, it's Araitz.
- I'm calling on behalf of Laura, Emilio's wife.
- Yes. - You've spoken to her.
- Let's see. - Yes.
Yes, she did mention something, but... I don't know what more I can tell you.
I want you to tell me a little of what you can remember of the fight.
- We were entire families. - Yes, yes.
-We were wives, children, brothers-in-law, brothers...
...they all had our support, that's true.
- If they said we had to spend a whole night without going out, we did it.
- if we had to go to a certain place, then we went there.
I mean, I can see myself, I can remember it clearly.
Good evening.
Today, the workers of Euskalduna have set a train on fire in Bilbao...
...and this is only the beginning of new and harder protests.
This is what a member of the company Committee of the Basque shipyard said.
The workers have reacted to the news of the rescission of their contracts,
...stating that it is as if someone put a gun to their chest...
...to make them to go through with future negotiations.
There are 1,568 workers in Olabeaga and Sestao affected by this measure.
At 12 o'clock, some of them waited for one of the trains...
...that run between Bilbao and Muskiz
A group of hooded people put planks on the rails near the shipyard...
...stopped the train, had passengers get off, apparently someone fainted...
...and many protested in anger. They poured gasoline over the three wagons...
...which caught fire.
When the flames were put out and the workers were leaving...
Because they were throwing out everything that was needed,
blowtorches and things that were used in making boilers and we welded them...
- What did you weld? - The trains to the rail tracks.
- The wheels to the tracks... - Yes, yes...
- So that they couldn't move them... - Yes... I remember that.
I think it went like that, and I can also remember people cutting the tracks...
...they'd cut them between two junctions, so that it would be more...
...and the rail would be more... problematic to fix.
- The other day one of the former workers told me...
..."for every bus we took over there were 100 more that entered La Naval".
- As if saying... the actions had... - Yes, they're stories of each person...
-...and that's true, because before in La Naval that I recall...
...they wouldn't go in...barely nobody, and then a lot of them went in...
...I tell you, for each bus,.. it was a type of...I think...
...to cheer ourselves up... "For each bus...100 people more"...
...it was something like that...because it isn't real, for each bus...100...
because if we burn in the end, I don't know what to say...
- Ten, they'd all go in... well a little more - Ten, yes,...we'd all go in...
- Ten and a minibus, well we'd all go in.
The Naval sector will start being restructured very soon...
and it's going to affect directly the Basque workers in the shipyard.
What do you think about this restructuring?
From our point of view the intention is to...
...reunite the two public shipyards of the river...
...Euskalduna and Naval, in Sestao, that will imply an important excess...
...staff because the facilities in Naval are not sufficient...
to fit all of the workers of the two factories.
It's a risk we have to take, we will see if they are really willing...
...to go through with what they intended.
We wanted to resist with everything we had and we'll see..
...how it turns out.
Stay still, stay still!
Stop the closing of Euskalduna!
Dissolve...!
Get back! Get back! Come on!
Oh Goodness...damn!
Who is the madman that's throwing those gas tanks?
Be careful!
It seems like the water has washed away anything left of Euskalduna.
The city has left little room for memory.
My generation might be the last to remember the conflict.
For many, it was the last labour conflict.
And like any conflict, it had its main characters.
Some are part of History. Others remained in the shadow.
To defend the dignity of families and the fight of the workers...
a group of women, partners, mothers and daughters...
...played an active part in the protest.
They formed the Women of Euskalduna Assembly.
Finding these women's trail has not been an easy task.
Most of them remembered nothing, not even taking part in those protests.
Others had very vague memories of them.
We wanted to tell their story... but they couldn't remember it.
We needed to find a way to do it.
In December 1984...
over 200 women shut themselves in the Euskalduna offices.
- Well, how are you? - Very good...
- How are you? - Good, looking forward to see you.
32 years later, we managed to get 7 of them together.
Most of them hadn't seen each other since.
- It was a long time ago but when I start to remember it's incredible.
- I know, huh? - What a struggle...
- But it was beautiful...
We proposed reenacting the shut down.
We thought getting together where it happened would help them remember.
- Hey... - Hello, how are you?
- I'm Yoli. - I'm Maribí.
- Great. - I'm Andrea.
- I don't remember you.
- No, I'm the daughter of one of the workers of Euskalduna.
- And were you also.... - Yes, yes.
- Hello.... - Eva, the most.....
- It's been so long.. - Hello. -How are you?
- You're so beautiful... - Wow...
- Eva... it's been so long since we last met.
Right, Bego? We had to have a meeting all of us...
I think that's a good idea, don't you?
Now and then remember... We then had children...
Well at least I have another child..
And others have been doing their things, it would be good to get up to date...
Life...
And to know how things moved on from there...
- Yes, that's true.
Women's shut down.
Memories...
...because when we were around here, well, we were all over the place.
And then, you remember some thing or another...
but then you feel nostalgic...
...sadness, pity, I don't know... memories...
I lived on the outskirts of Bilbao...
...because I'd been living in Bilbao, but then I left.
I'd been working before I got married...
...but I left my job. When I had my daughter, I quit.
Sure... you couldn't call it thriving, but it was enough to survive.
Well a bit of everything, a bit of sadness, a bit of excitement...
...at that time. The fight we had, I mean...
...we were young and we were there fighting, right?
We were a working class family, and as I say, we took it day by day...
...with a working man's salary from Euskalduna.
We lived in the left side of the city, in Barakaldo...
...and we still live there... in the same flat.
Well in the 80's I wasn't working.
I'd left my job, before I worked in a company
and I was with Felipe and we had a two-year-old daughter.
I'm Maribí, my partner at that time worked here...
...but I was already separated.
I had just separated in the year 83.
But I think that was a decision I had taken years ago.
This is my job. I don't want this system to eat me up
...and I want to confront this system with my possibilities.
I came from a Basque village, with some very important references...
...with theories even more important...
...and suddenly I discovered the left side.
And I've always said it and the people that listen to me say "oh dear!".
No, I discovered what it was to be a leftist on the left bank.
I'm Andrea, my husband worked here.
We had 4 daughters at that time, ...the three eldest ones and
...the youngest which was about a year and a half or so.
I used to do the ironing in another house in the afternoons...
...and then 2 days a week I'd go and clean the shop window for...
...where this tapestry was. So I was very busy.
I think I was about 19 or 20 years old. We had just married...
...we had our daughter. We had no work.
So we lived off my mother's salary.
Perhaps my case is a little different because it was my mother who worked.
I fought outside, but it was my mother who was in the inside.
She would be inside all day, she... you know...don't you?
Oh Yoli, Yoli...
I still live in the Euskalduna neighbourhood...
...the houses belong to Euskalduna.
We all lived in that neighbourhood, now the houses have been sold...
but back then, the people that lived there worked in Euskalduna.
It was a very profitable shipyard, with a lot of work...
...with a lot of social achievements. A determined and courageous shipyard.
I was amazed by all the rights that they had.
A company that had social assistants that had a medical clinic...
...a company that had aids, that released the workers
...to learn Basque. I mean, a company that, well...
...the workers doubled most of our salary, and they had rights...
A company that was an example to follow....and we wanted...
...the other companies to follow in their footsteps as well, right?
Nobody even thought that they could have economic problems...
...restructuring problems.
And nevertheless, the moment they lay out a Restructuring Plan...
...which in itself is a difficult plan...
...and then they make it even more difficult, when it has been accepted...
And that is when they talked about closing down. Just like that, shameless.
You realize that things are changing and that they are not going to get better.
The faces, their getting no sleep, their wanting to burn...
that rage with the bicycle or with other types of sport, right?
...you could feel that something wasn't right.
People start to say that the situation is very bad...
...that they are talking about shutting down completely.
Talks about firing, say, workers who are 55,
...talks about giving other options, but the shut down was imminent.
And that is when they decided to take hold of the bridge.
I think that us women, we all had the feeling that, I don't know...
...we supported the fight,
supported that they fought, we thought they had to fight,
and it's what they must do and there is nothing more to it.
There is no other way, it isn't an option.
There's nothing left but to fight and a way of showing that
we agreed and that we had to continue fighting
...was to fight with them side by side, right?
And there was a lot at stake; it was our husbands' jobs, our families' economy,
...it was just everything, everything...
...so then, we gave everything we had and more.
It was not only an end to their work, it was an entire family's...
....or even more generations.
It was...a huge loss of countless job placements...
...for us the people it was really important.
...and they even took that from us, right?
They took from us, well... "the future"
...and that is...
...like stealing from you....
...it still hurts you know?...
And I'm still living it, you know? Damn! It was like...
...they stole our future from us.
There is me as a woman,
as a Basque woman, like everything, they took away what is me, right?
Because those things you just thought about and they were just ideas...
...but when they become reality
...and you realize that this company has disappeared...
...and the other, and the other...
...and they are taking your future as a community away, but as a woman...
...you can't even imagine what they are taking away from you.
Women fighting!
Not to Euskalduna´s shutting down!
I can't remember the first time. I can remember going, holding a sign...
...in a protest, but I can't remember how it started...
I mean, how I started in particular nor who or how we got in touch.
Angel probably told me... what they were suggesting we do was...
...a Women's Assembly and so on...
and the exact date, I can't remember but I suppose
that the day we all arranged to get together,
I must have come that first day.
At first we weren't many but then more women started to come.
I think someone was encouraging them but I don't know who that was...
...but someone was promoting that idea and things started to take shape.
At first it was just making signs and going to protests...
...down Gran Vía.
...and taking hold of Sagrado Corazón...
...and stopping traffic.
I can remember in one of the Assemblies that we did, Maribí Marañon...
...decided that we had to write a song and we'd sing it at Sagrado Corazón.
The police was there, there were small tanks, they were all together...
...and then, a policeman or one of the bosses came and spoke...
and said we had to go, that we had to leave and so on.
We said we weren't going to move and then Maribí said "To the floor"
he said "All of you on the floor"
he said it was better to be on the floor
because it would be harder to move us and so on.
We threw ourselves on the ground, in Sagrado Corazón singing our song...
and we could see the small tank getting closer, and closer, and closer
and when they were finally here, they did that motion...
...and Maribí insisted that we not get up
even though the tank was there, we mustn't.
I can remember that and, I mean, wow.
I clearly remember that.
See I don't remember... You've reminded me sometimes...
But I.... I don't remember.
Those are things that...until then, a housewife, even if her
salary wasn't enough, well she wouldn't do it, right?
But there we met other women, and even more women...
...that were willing to take the risk and sacrifice everything at that moment.
The unity between those women was very important.
Some husbands didn't want their wives to go to protests or anything like that.
They thought they had no place there, like, what are you doing here?
And some women were in difficult situations but they still came...
...it even went against the workers.
It's not that he didn't want me to, but perhaps the fear...
...of something happening...
One of Angel's uncles, the first time he saw me, he said:
What are you doing here? You shouldn't be here
And I told him...uncle Paco: I'm here to defend the job...
not only your nephew's job... but the job...
...that supports his whole family, and that means, mine as well...
and our daughters' too...
I think that was... it was too much for him...
...because he never said anything again... ever again...
...he welcomed me warmly, I mean...
Perhaps I made him think a little.
What are these women going to do? What... Where are you going...?
That is what we were living, but we still went there, you know?
And once again we have disappeared.
Well I don't know... black stains history, you know?...
Every time someone spoke about a woman...poof!...
There was a big stain and nobody knew.
But when you see that the most concerned party, to put it in this way...
...is telling you: "Don't go!"... "Don't go!"
it must be....very womanly, you know?
because it's women we are talking about, right?
I think that at the beginning, the workers, not all of them,
...we couldn't see how women could do something for us.
We thought it was our thing, but my mother used to tell me...
...that she couldn't stay at home, she had to do something....
...so I said "okay then, mum, go over there!"
and she also took part in that, she didn't know what she had to do...
but she knew she had to do something, she couldn't just stay at home
and we be fighting every day.
...and she started to go to the protests...
...I think there was some incomprehension on behalf of...
....all the workers.
Almost 80% of the workers of Euskalduna didn't agree...
..with women taking part of, well, anything...
Well protests yes, but walking alone with signs in their hands...
...being there in the factory, and whatever more...
I think most people didn't agree.
Going there, I don't know, and having the role of being 'the wife of'...
well it wasn't very progressive, was it? It was a little...
What is my role here, you know?
But I think many women that had never taken part in anything...
...that was useful, you know? To make them feel...
...like people with the capacity of making decisions on what they wanted...
...on what you must do or not do.
You know? Not always being dependent...
...and so I think that that was very clear.
They weren't the wives of workers, no, no, no.
That is why it was shouted...
it wasn't shouted "work for my husband",
it was shouted: "We're all slingshots".
Women who were 40 or 50 years old!
And slingshots became the big fashion at that time.
Percussion ones...
I'm not sure if I still have one at home.
They were for percussion...
It depends on who would do that.
It depends on who did that.
On where you worked.
- In which department. - And on how each person did it...
They made a workshop here...
I came to see how they made them
The elastics were those from hospitals.
Really?...
...the ones they use when you get an injection...
I hadn't seen a slingshot in many years.
The fight has changed so much,
when they see you now with a slingshot...oh dear...
It became.. it was almost criminalized. It was now...
...a weapon. Offensive.
And of course, there was a follow up. We knew they took pictures
...of the people in the first row, with slingshots.
Of course, we were all men and women in that fight.
And that is why, we were all slingshots.
It's true that in all the signs, everywhere you looked...
...there was someone with a slingshot.
But I also think that there was something of our history
in which we all saw it as something to play with.
...and that toy was now something we used to defend ourselves.
These people are the scum of society.
Aren't you stupid!
Here we go!
"We're all slingshots"
"They deserve the anti terrorist law"
"We're here... against the dismissal, so general strike!"
I've been struck by the women in this and so on.
I had forgotten, the protest... I went there, wow, what an outrage...
I could remember our group, we were the youngest, or I don't know...
...we were in our twenties, we were still very young...
- ...but there were many older people too!
- Of course...
- There were many women of that time...
...that had never been in a fight.
They came from a system that stopped them from working.
Franco said... let's put our women in their rightful place.
In houses and households.
So, that was an entire education that was put in our heads, you know
It was incredible, truly incredible...
...and so, they were the majority, as you can see in some photographs
what you may call "a housewife".
But nobody talks about these mothers, do they?
But they were the ones who, for example, supported us financially...
...the ones who brought food to our tables.
The ones who created the sense of solidarity in the streets.
Those women disappeared, but if you get a closer look at us now...
...none of us has disappeared.
It was the Assembly that disappeared...
and especially them, as an Assembly of women of Euskalduna.
There was no Euskalduna anymore.
But there was a lot of dignity.
And it must be a tribute to these women because many are not here anymore...
- Yes, yes. In that frame, there were many older people...
I could see how they'd just go round and round. Mari and the others were there...
...others from the houses of Euskalduna...
...how they turned the cars around to make barricades, you know?
How Ageda would come to my house to have meetings with other women.
..and she was the one who spoke to the women who were there
...and she'd say this and that.
When that meeting finished, I remember Tito who told me...
...Hey, Bego, you and I have to talk...
...he said..I want to know what you're up to....
No, no, no, I won't say a word You know best...
Because he thought we were going to go under cover.
And he said... Well I'll be damned!
There was another action not to pay for the train...
...and then, we'd go in, not pay for our ticket....
The inspector could come, but we'd stay there until we got to Bilbao.
Or go to the store, get food
and say that that food wouldn't be payed for because...
...at that time salaries were not being payed.
...and we'd get the food out no matter what anybody said,
...even if they called the police, we'd get our food out.
We talked to the manager, we explained that we were simply taking...
...food which was necessary, and we'd come now and then..
the older women would go up and confront them....
saying that that food was ours and that salaries hadn't been payed...
...and that we we're going to take this and maybe another bagful as well...
...and they just took it.
I mean, we were brave.
Now I see.... Back then we didn't get it...
Maybe because we were still young.
I couldn't see we were so....
...but now, years later, I can see we were very brave to do that.
I mean, the tanks were right beside us and were still there on the ground.
And I'm not sure if now I'd still be sitting down,
if I saw the tank so close to me.
It was also decided that we shut ourselves in the Euskalduna offices.
One night. Stay there all night and go out and 8 o'clock the following morning.
I don't know if it was 7 or 8 o'clock.
It was the first time I spent a night out of the house without my daughters...
...and without my husband, of course.
We got hold of sleeping bags...
And nothing more, no dinner, no nothing, we had eaten at home.
He did encourage me to go to the shut down.
And then, of course it was also my decision, not only his.
...and I could also have an opinion, of course. But
I made the decision and went over there.
We started conversations and each person talked, well, about their cousin...
...or whatever, what happened to her or whoever more, and so on...
...politics perhaps had little to do, there wasn't much to say, you know?
But that was a lot to deal with, you know?
And not to mention the constant fear.
Suddenly, in the middle of the night they said the police was going to come.
The tanks were outside, you know?
I think something strange happened and it was a bad time for us
...but we still stayed in there!
And the next morning, when we got out, they were all there...
there were many workers, many women, family members,
...and, well, all the applause, it's emotional, you know?
I can remember going out that door and people waiting for us and clapping.
Very emotional.
"No to the shut down of Euskalduna"
"We'll have to be aware that the situation is very serious...
...and that we have a big problem"
"And that we'll have to make an effort to participate and stay together...
....in the fight... No to the shutting down of Euskalduna!
"No to the shut down of Euskalduna"
Wow, I mean, you can't even imagine.
If someone asked me: Say a number...
...I would have said, I don't know.. I would've said 30.
The feeling we had, of doing something, but it was like...
...I don't know, with no consequences, well...
...a group of women get together,
...but 200 is a number, which to me is already very important.
Two hundred women, of that age and at that time. It was, it was...
To me it was a great success.
It created solidarity between us.
You know, being locked up in there.
...and it was good, and I remember ...I've just remembered...
...that night we read letters that people sent us...
...sent by GRAPO prisoners, women from ETA who were in prison
...and also from wives of miners, I'd almost forgotten
...from Asturias, they sent us letters and we read them that night...
They told us to hang in there....
...it was as though they sent us solidarity.
And, well, we did, and you think, we created that solidarity,
not only in Euskal Herria, but also in the whole of Spain.
that is what we did that night.
One death due to a heart attack and a bullet wound victim.
The police used real gun fire at the Euskalduna shipyard
Yes, you tell them!
Workers and police worsen the fight in Euskalduna
Incidents after the funeral for the Euskalduna worker
"Pablo, we remember!"
There were prisoners who were arrested
and among those, some were taken to...
...the police station and some happened in their houses.
At midnight, they'd knock on the door and say...
...it's the police, and we had to open the door...
...and they came in.
They searched the house from top to bottom and they took Tito.
They accused him of collaborating with an armed group...
...because it seems they were looking for something in Euskalduna
...which wasn't there.
But anyway, from there, they wanted to see what they could find out.
He got out. The fight went on...
And for 6 months I had two people guarding me.
I had a daughter who was 3. Wherever I went I could see them.
Two people behind me, two young men.
I think they were policemen.
Because on occasion, when I changed where I was going I don't know...
...what I generally did was go and play in the park with my daughter...
that day I went to the Plaza Nueva in Bilbao and they were there too.
What I mean is that they had investigated me.
All that went on for 6 months.
They never spoke to me, they never said anything.
That paralyzed me for an entire year.
Sure.
I'd get up in the middle of the night, I'd get dressed and sit on the bed...
...and wait...
...because I was obsessed...
...in thinking they're not going to catch me in bed again.
When they come in, I'll already be dressed...
And I was like that for a whole year. I've never talked about that.
Of course, I never talked about it until Araitz started to do research
...for the Euskalduna thing
...and, well, not at the beginning but I tell her now and then.
What did you think about coming here?
I don't know if it's been a while you haven't come here?
- Well, since we left in 84, I hadn't been back.
- So this is the first time after the...
- I haven't even wanted to go in the Euskalduna theater...
...until I went in this year.
- I didn't even want to get close to here.
- Why?
Because it got me sad. It was such a bad time that...
...I just couldn't. I haven't wanted to.
- For me it's my second time.
The first was because our father wanted us to spread the ashes
here in the dam...
...where he had worked for 44 years and before dying he told me: “Iñaki...
...you need to spread the ashes there. I asked him: Why? Euskalduna now isn't...
No, no, I spent my entire life there and so my life is there.
That's the key. Many people's lives are there.
I am not a religious person,
but I do believe that the soul of many workers lies there...
...workers from Vizcaya... It is still there and...
- Well I never came back. It's the first time.
And I think it will be my last time.
All these feelings... at least in my case.
That marked me forever... it really did.
I think I even became spiteful towards many people, you know?
...and I don't want to...
and going in the Palacio de Euskalduna...
...I haven't been in there and I'm not planning to.
The open wounds won’t face the memories.
The memory is still alive and it still hurts.
And the consequences when you close that door and go home...
...and all the consequences that we've shared and suffered...
...us, our daughters, suicides, people that just couldn't bare it
...and also the amount of separations.
- Of course I'm only talking about my case. It was tremendous.
I don't know how many people committed suicide, but the problem of alcoholism
...in most cases, yes.
People became apathetic as well, a badly closed door and...
...simply not knowing how to go on with their lives.
I think he never got over it. For many years....
...it was...over and over, and over again...
...and the situation at home wasn't as good as it was years before.
No way... I'm talking about mine, but I know in other families
...it was the same case.
My husband talks about his experiences, back when he was on the boat...
Even today he still tells us about
the great atmosphere they had between them,
...and when he went to La Naval, he decided to go to Villareal because
...there wasn't the atmosphere that there was in Euskalduna.
They treated them differently.
And yes, yes, to me it was...
very sad, the first time we went to see...
...what Euskalduna had become and it wasn't there anymore
...but you get used to it, there's no other way.
When someone's future was to retire there and even thought that...
their children had their future organized and from one day to the next,
you have nothing, and you've been trained and prepared for that...
When you close yourself behind 4 walls...
...I suddenly saw him as an old man.
...I know it sounds horrible but it's the truth.
Like, like...older, as though...
...he had closed so many doors
and didn't have to bother doing anything more...
I've already been, I've already done, I have, I have...
Years went by,... ...you just can't.
You can't go on like that.
And you love him, and you care about him, but it was hard at times...
Well it was hard at times because we still love each other a lot...
...but when my son was born we made the decision and we separated.
It isn't that simple, but it marks all this story.
It does indeed. And a lot, too.
Making this documentary has meant closing a cycle for me.
The Euskalduna fight has always been present in my house.
but I saw there was something that seemed very contradictory to me.
The Euskalduna conflict has always been told from the point of view of the men
but in my house it was always my mum who brought it up. My dad never said much.
I asked them but I didn't get the answers I wanted
so I began to pull on the thread
to find out what women did for the fight and what it meant to them.
Now I think we have brought a little justice to the women.
Not only have we explained their part but told their story from their point of view.
For instance, I left that part of history aside, and until today...
I haven't mentioned it, I mean nobody had asked me about it either.
I don't know, it doesn't come up.
And it was their work, we were just supporting them...
and that is why we don't remember it that much.
And we didn't think it was that important...
...it was something we had to do, and we did it, and after...
...we didn't think much of it.
There are things I remembered at a particular moment...
...because I had completely forgotten them.
Maybe because it was so hard for us, you know?
...and memory can be selective...
...let's stay positive and forget about the rest...
...we already suffered enough back then.
We continue to change and life must go on, right?
And for many of them, at least for those I knew well,
Euskalduna is like a bond, something that keeps them together.
But not for us.
Unless you start remembering, you think it was not all that important
or that it could be of someone's interest.
As an experience in filming this documentary, very positive and grateful
...that generations like yours, young people have brought this up again...
...otherwise it would have been forgotten. The same as the fight for Euskalduna.
We have nothing.
Yes, yes, it's worth it. Shedding some light upon it
...and it's worth thinking about it again
and value it if nothing more.
And see if it serves for something more,
so that people think about it and learn that if you don't fight...
you won't get, you must fight for it.
We must get together in order to fight.
...because individually you don't get anywhere.
Because it's important that youth have someone to look back on...
...and that you have to fight for things.
If you don't fight,
you'll never know if it's going to turn out well or not.
And the enemy... is very big.
Youth of the world... Listen...
Euskalduna did happen, was fought for, but there is still...
...a harder fight. Go ahead.